Steppe E. has heavier pondus,
a yellow gap extending a bit longer
'backwards', and a darker body ?

Somebody agreeing to this (pomarina?)
feeling?

I'm prepared to be grounded,

KR ............. C.

Jeg er enig med Carsten i, at jizzet er mere Skrigeørn end Steppeørn for denne fugl. For lidt tyngde for korte vinger og specielt for korte fingre, syvende finger meget kort.

Men givet lokaliteten tror jeg snarere, at vi skal over i Indisk Skrigeørn, A. hastata. Se KMO kommentarer ved nedenstående billede.

http://www.netfugl.dk/pictures.php?id=showpicture&picture_id=32780

mvh Jens

Jeg byder også ind på Skrigeørn - Indisk er nok et rigtigt godt bud.

Den her kombination af mørkt hoved og hals, i kombination med lys krop og bug har jeg dog aldrig set på en Skrigeørn før. Karakteren er derimod velkendt hos yngre (3K) Steppeørn. Er det noget der er karakteristisk for Indisk Skrigeørn ?

Bh
9s

Kære JENS og NIS [w/ English summary ]

Tusind tak for prompte og helt
bogstaveligt... at bringe HASTATA
'ind i billedet'.

Jeg vidste ikke, at kloden var blevet
beriget med en ny ØRNEart.

Hastata var siden 1732 (Lesson)
en pomarina subsp.; siden 2002
en art (following Parry).
Lille popul., kun 2.500-10.000.

Ja, A.p.p. kan overvintre i samme
område. Måske SOLVEIGs ørn bliver
den første A. hastata (evt. m/?)
i The GALLERY.
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ENGLISH:
...It is discussed if this photo
...shows Aquila hastata,
...INDIAN Spotted Eagle.

>> Can You assist with ID ? <<

Kd. rgds. ....... C.

1732 (Lesson) in previous mail
should be '1834 (Lesson)'.

Sorry ........... C.

This is a pale Aquila clanga. Note the barring on the remiges,
etc. and see the photos at tarsiger.com from Oman.
cheers, Matti

I guess you could call it "semi-fulvescens type", not so uncommon in the main winterig areas.

Dear MATTI,

MANY thanks for bringing attention to
CLANGA and the FINE photo collection(!)
in tarsiger.com.

PS: Accord. to maps in Kazmierczak 2000
there are a single records of Clanga at
Bharatpur latitude and further South.
Brown et al. (1968) included Bharatpur
in Clanga's 'main wintering area'.
_______________________________________

Personally, I find that CLANGA has a
bit more prominent (longer) primaries
and a heavier bill than SOLVEIG's raptor,
above.
_________________________

Not being an expert, more Qualified
opinions will hopefully address Your
interesting proposal.

Best rgds ............ C.

KMO,are You there?
I'm pretty sure you've seen clangas like this in Bharatpur and maybe elsewhwere. Would you like to comment? It's still nipalensis here, which I think it really isn't.

mvh Matti

Hi Matti,

Thanks for chiming in on an id. that was slow to 'take off'....

I am not KMO, but think that he agrees with you as I certainly do.

The process of changing the name of the species normally speeds up if the photographer asks the administrator to do so.

regards

Peter

A rather pale clanga. The gape is not that long, steppe-eagle like of hasitata, and the barring in innetr primaries typical for clanga: faint barring restricted to basal parts, leaving a rather broad pale area at the outer parts. The sqary hand differs from the slightly more pointed in hastata (bein similar to pomarina in this respect).

The species name have now been altered to Spotted Eagle (Aquila clanga) - "semi-fulvescens type". What is the age of this bird?

Best wishes RSN (admin)

Rather similar patterned to This

and This

JanJ

Tak til alle også for rettelse af "fugleart".
Fine sammenligningsbilleder fra Jan Jörgensen.
(Det nærmeste jeg selv kunne finde frem til var yngre steppeørn)
Glad hilsen
Søs

Ansporet af Dit billede, SØS, god debat og
KLAUS' eksakte
Spotless Spotting of Spotted Sp.(...sorry),

gik jeg for første gang på opdagelse i den
omfattende fotosamling, 'orientalbirdimages.
org':

# 6 i serien af CLANGA billeder viser faktisk
en fugl fra Maharashta (V.Deshmukh, 3/3 '10),
der i 'dragt' svarer ganske nøje til Din!

Der er ikke aldersangivelse.

'Oriental' viser iøvrigt utrolige dragt-
variationer bl. Skrigeørne.

VH ............. C.